Edit: Nevermind
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
but back on subject of the cave? how big exactly is it?
Oh and you get great newsletters.Nicotti wrote:I thought the reason to join a grotto was so you could get into locked caves, without a pair of bolt cutters.BROUSER wrote:Don't take offense, Veruth. Grotto members and "serious" cavers all immediately assume that all human beings other than themselves enter caves with either the intent to destroy or the lack of knowledge to properly move about in the cave without destroying the entire ecosystem. That seems to be the main reason for joining a grotto: so you can evolve into a superhuman who can enter such spaces and have zero impact on a caves environment. And while I will admit they do a wonderful job of educating individuals concerning those issues, they seem to forget that there are other resources for attaining the knowledge necessary to go into a cave without wreaking havoc.