Pole Shift/Ozarks

[charopós]

I don't get this whole "the poles will shift" thing.

You wouldn't, what with all of your earthly "science" and "facts". We have seen the Star of Dogon and come here to speak its truth. WhiteHatHacker is just trying to help you understand but I fear it's too late for you.

[SubLunar]

Nicotti is a close minded fool

Obviously untrue if you can see the hidden meaning in my sig.

I don't get it.

[Nicotti]

I don't get this whole "the poles will shift" thing.

You wouldn't, what with all of your earthly "science" and "facts". We have seen the Star of Dogon and come here to speak its truth. WhiteHatHacker is just trying to help you understand but I fear it's too late for you.

Don't be a douche, just explain it.

[s.sisco]

I don't know what this is supposed to be:
http://www.millennium-thisiswhoweare.ne ... 874697.gif
Can we get a picture caption?

I'll take this. When Planet X comes within the gravitational pull of Earth, the poles will shift and the water will rise across the world, so this shows North America after the fact. I have been in near constant communication with Sirius over the course of the past few years and can confirm this information by extra terrestrial sources.

Hey look its youcity

[RedRook]

I don't get this whole "the poles will shift" thing. Why do these people believe that the poles are going to shift? And are they talking the magnetic poles or the actual physical location?

From what I remember there is reason to believe the poles have shifted, both the rotational pole and the magnetic poles.

I remember an article about the last large Pacific earthquake moving the rotational axis by a tiny fraction of a degree. For the magnetic pole, scientists look at the magnetic record in Basalt. The further it is from a trench, the older it is assumed to be, and sometimes the induced polarity flips. This is highly rare, so it is unlikely to see a flip in our lifetime, but on a geological scale it is bound to happen again.

Theoretically when it happens, there is an unknown amount of time with a very weak magnetic field. Evidence is not very precise about the weakening though, so science has few details of what precisely a weaker magnetic field means in such an event. We do know the field protects us from Solar radiation, so one possible threat is lacking protection from solar flares. That's a bigger threat now animals named humans have electrical grids.

I'm too lazy today to look up links. If anyone cares about this, I'll look them up later. Planet X is just plain proven false from everything I've read.

[RedRook]

Charopós, I've wondered for a long time about your river Styx toll. Shouldn't we have a public boat system to get into the after life. It seems fairly outdated to have to pay a toll for every crossing. Is there a Reptilian I can bring this up with? Our Socialism really needs to be expanded, and your archaic job is one prime example of the need. Maybe those on Planet X will get things straightened out once they come, I can't wait.

[Nicotti]

I don't get this whole "the poles will shift" thing. Why do these people believe that the poles are going to shift? And are they talking the magnetic poles or the actual physical location?

From what I remember there is reason to believe the poles have shifted, both the rotational pole and the magnetic poles.

I remember an article about the last large Pacific earthquake moving the rotational axis by a tiny fraction of a degree. For the magnetic pole, scientists look at the magnetic record in Basalt. The further it is from a trench, the older it is assumed to be, and sometimes the induced polarity flips. This is highly rare, so it is unlikely to see a flip in our lifetime, but on a geological scale it is bound to happen again.

Theoretically when it happens, there is an unknown amount of time with a very weak magnetic field. Evidence is not very precise about the weakening though, so science has few details of what precisely a weaker magnetic field means in such an event. We do know the field protects us from Solar radiation, so one possible threat is lacking protection from solar flares. That's a bigger threat now animals named humans have electrical grids.

I'm too lazy today to look up links. If anyone cares about this, I'll look them up later. Planet X is just plain proven false from everything I've read.

Yeah I knew about the magnetic reversals every ~11k years (I believe I read some place).

You mean an article like this one?

[Nicotti]

I remember an article about the last large Pacific earthquake moving the rotational axis by a tiny fraction of a degree.

But the article says that the pole moved because the earthquake changed the distribution of the Earth's mass.

How would a Planet X's gravity cause the Earth's mass to be redistributed in such a way as to move the poles enough to cause the changes shown on that map drawing he posted? The amount of energy it would require seems to make it unlikely any humans or plants would survive extinction, whether they hide in the Ozarks or elsewhere.

[RedRook]

But the article says that the pole moved because the earthquake changed the distribution of the Earth's mass.

Oh, I have no idea on the Planet X thing. I just listed the two sane sounding reasons people seem to believe the poles shift. Everyone I've heard talk about Planet X seems to know all kinds of details about the planet right after stating no one has found it yet.

You'll have to ask them, but I assume it is similar to the mechanism used by Leprechauns to amass entire pots of gold. We all could be rich if we could shift that golden mass to the surface, but then I guess gold would be as cheap as plastic. It must be why Leprechauns keep their secret so closely guarded.

[Nicotti]

We all could be rich if we could shift that golden mass to the surface, but then I guess gold would be as cheap as plastic.

That makes me think of this.

And also, since we're talking about gravity, this.

[PANIC! on the Titanic]

Also, there are technically only 8 planets now that Pluto is classified as a "Dwarf Planet".

Past Pluto NASA has already found more dwarf planets and other trans-Neptunian objects out there so, it's not like finding stuff out there is a big deal.

You beat me to this, but I'd like to add that if we do not include dwarf planets, they would be looking for planet IX. Including pluto means we must include other dwarf planets, so we're talking at least Planet XIII here. Doesn't quite have the mysterious ring as 'Planet X.'

Plus any planet that far out in the solar system, in order to have any kind of gravitational effect on earth, must be absolutely fucking massive (remember kids, g=GM/R^2) so it probably wouldn't be mysterious. In fact it would probably not even be a planet, something that massive would have to be a star. Since we know there aren't 2 stars in our solar system (This isn't conjecture, fundy, this is observational fact) there's nothing of much gravitational influence on earth besides the moon and the sun.

For a real mind blow go look at the hubble extreme deep field image. Hubble looked at a tiny empty spot in the sky collecting light for like 23 days, and it revealed thousands of galaxies, each galaxy with billions, perhaps trillions of stars, each star with the potential for solar systems with habitable planets, all in a tiny section of sky that looks like there's nothing there to us. Yet God cares about tiny insignificant you, and when you have sex, and in what positions, and that you lop off your foreskins? Gimme a fuckin break. The only thing we got going for us in this universe is that we are part of the universe aware of itself. That's the real enigma, not nominally imaginative 'Planet X revelation extinction' bullshit.

[Nicotti]

Actually, I don't have a problem with believing in God or that God created the universe and everything. But I also know that that is only a belief and not testable by observable science. So I don't really expect people to believe the same as me.

But a Planet X in the outer solar system isn't a belief, that is testable by science.

I caution anyone on lumping all of Christians in with the views of this one. Not that that's necessarily what I thought you were doing Panic.

[WhiteHatHacker]

The whole idea isn't totally impossible. And yes most star systems are dual.
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/fa ... nd-n287856

The magnetic field on Earth will be pulled by a large body. This body's magnetic field would screw with the rotation of the earth and its magnetic field.

Some weird shit is happening, the moon suddenly flipped orientation and the sun is rising differently at the poles. Signs of the planet beginning to interfere with earth.
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/13 ... e-moon.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMOKp2Mbofk


Weird stuff indeed.

[BROUSER]

Some weird shit is happening...Weird stuff indeed.

It's only weird until it is explained. Once it is explained, it becomes pedestrian. And while the human tendency always seems to be that any changes indicate the end of life on earth or complete cosmic cataclysm, so far that hasn't been the case. Someday it will be, but not every time somebody sees something they don't understand. Human nature also tends to ascribe these things to some supernatural influence. Eclipses, storms, comets...guess we haven't really progressed that far if people are still buying into this unmitigated horseshit.

[PANIC! on the Titanic]

I caution anyone on lumping all of Christians in with the views of this one. Not that that's necessarily what I thought you were doing Panic.

Nah, there's a difference between reasonable moderate christians and confirmation biased conspiracy theorists looking for answers to replace well established facts, and disregarding real scientific information in favor of the pseudoscientific (at best) ramblings of sites like designtrends.com that don't even cite their sources. Come on, go to google scholar and look shit up in real peer reviewed scientific journals. I know several conservative christians disregard factual science for bizarre models that fit their beliefs, but they're a minority I'd say.

Also I'm pretty sure WhiteAssCracker is just a troll, but has prompted interesting discussion anyway.

For the record, Youcity set the bar pretty high for you conspiritards. WhiteCracker, it's like you're not even trying.