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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: wonder cave Reply with quote

Anybody heard of wonder cave in reedsprings mo? Its an old show cave like old spanish and i believe it closed around the same time. I found out about the cave through an old library book and all it stated for location was "down a ravine dirt road". Any guesses? ive checked the interwebz and other books but i cant find much.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

What is the book name?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:38 pm    Post subject: RE: wonder cave Reply with quote

not sure, i will go to the library and find it. I believe the author was luwella agnes, or however the hell you spell it? Its also mentioned in the book missouri caves in history and legend. h. Dwight weaver
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

If you reference the quandrangle map, I think you can get pretty close.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:34 am    Post subject: RE: wonder cave Reply with quote






I was able to locate it on one topo map at the library and it was on the Garber quadrangle not forsyth, I don't think this would even place it three miles east of reed spring junction like the book says? So either the book it wrong, or the topo map from the library is wrong??? mIf you look close you can see the road that leads to the cave.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: RE: wonder cave Reply with quote

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=36.750232,-93.39572&spn=0.032048,0.077162&t=p&z=14
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

Yep, it's actually on the Spokane map. I can see it on my iPhone topos. The books directions are way off. I wonder if it's describing a different cave altogether.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: RE: wonder cave Reply with quote

Twail Wetard wrote:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=36.750232,-93.39572&spn=0.032048,0.077162&t=p&z=14


For peeps not spiffy with maps, when you click the link pan east to where bear creek road comes off 248/160. There is an almost round ridge on the sw side of that intersection, topo shows the cave on the western point of the ridge south of that ridge.

If you turn on aerials you can see a white square area in the middle of the trees west of the ridge, which I'm guessing is the old parking lot.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

redox wrote:
The books directions are way off. I wonder if it's describing a different cave altogether.


Not so much that it's off as they didn't give complete driving directions. You do exit Hwy 65 at a point 3 miles to the east of where Reed's Spring Junction used to be. They just forgot to mention the name of that road (160) and that you had to drive like 2 miles west on it.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:23 am    Post subject: RE: wonder cave Reply with quote

That must be how the book's directions work. Bear Creek road runs off of 65 all the way to 248. The "ravine road" must be Bear Creek road which seems to have deadended pretty much at the cave after crossing 248. Except now there's a small pond on the west side of 248 where Bear Creek Road now ends. So one would have to go around the little pond -probably on foot- to get onto the road going to the cave.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

I'd say you're right. I have no idea when they built Hwy 248, but it sounds like sometime after the book was written. Which if that's the case then the road may have gone around the pond, but then they moved the road when they built the intersection.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

I see the pond at the end of Bear creek rd, but I dont see any signs of an old parking lot or where the road would have gone down to the cave? I do see another pond in one of the valleys directly inline with bear creek rd? possibly cave or spring related?
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

I'm wondering if the pond isn't there to sap the velocity of cars flying off the end of Bear Creek Rd.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:01 am    Post subject: RE: wonder cave Reply with quote



I think its right about here and the "ravine rd" could be wallace lane, its looks like the one on the topo map that heads towards the cave. looks like 4 wheeler trails all in the area too. Not sure about the parking lot though 50ft from the cave like the book says?

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: wonder cave Reply with quote

Ooo You're partially right.

I found where the road goes, give me a bit to post the image

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