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Kit The Woman

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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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then you can try it again when you are in jail. FUN STUFF
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Freak 300+ Poster


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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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Just buy Caveland or some other place with Sandstone under it, Sandstone is waayyyyy easier to dig into than limestone and you can just make your own caves.
Seriously, if someone has extra money, just buy vacant land with sandstone and carve out a house instead of building it. Earth Shelter = cheaper heating/cooling too!
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the_p0ssum 100+ Poster

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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| I couldn't find where this had been posted before, but here's a very interesting account of the cave from 1946, before the I-55 construction messed everything up.
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archinstl 100+ Poster
 
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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Quite a find! Thanks!
The account was written in an interesting literary manner.
I thought I'd written this before in this forum, but could not find it, so...
I toured it once as a kid, back in the early '50s. Frankly, I thought it was pretty kitschy. For ? reason, I recall it being promoted as an "Indian cave." The cave and the museum above just reminded me of those old highway "zoo" attractions which promised thrills but only showed a possum, a raccoon, an armadillo, and a mangy coyote - and the "man-eating" alligator was 12 inches long...
The parts open to the paying public were only the "natural" parts and not the parts belonging to the brewery per se (no stage and no swimming pool, etc.).
I think the entrance was on Cherokee Street, but am not sure. I know it disappeared when the highway was built.
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SubLunar insert name here

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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| archinstl wrote: | | I think the entrance was on Cherokee Street, but am not sure. I know it disappeared when the highway was built. |
The entrance was off Cave street where the ramp is now, behind Demenil.
| archinstl wrote: | | For ? reason, I recall it being promoted as an "Indian cave. |
Part of it is referred to as Indian Passage.
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christopher 0-99 Poster
 
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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Green and Red are traces from a couple different manipulated/scaled rough maps. But they match pretty good.
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crazydrummerdude Minute Man

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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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| christopher wrote: | | Green and Red are traces from a couple different manipulated/scaled rough maps. But they match pretty good. |
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SubLunar insert name here

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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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| What did you base this on?
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christopher 0-99 Poster
 
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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| keg stand map and 1946 full story map
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KatyaRose92 0-99 Poster
 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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What is the big building at Cherokee and Broadway? Does anyone have any idea? I'm apparently not good with blind searches...
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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| The bottling department.
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KatyaRose92 0-99 Poster
 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: RE: Lemp/Cherokee position under streets |
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Ah, OK... I've been down that way before but I was driving and more concerned with getting to Lemp than what was around me. I also didn't realize how much that wedge of property sticks out on a map. Kind of amazing to think about what that area used to look like once upon a time.
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