anybody know
-
Twail Wetard
- The Clit Commander
- Posts: 1149
- Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:19 pm
- Location: SPRINGFIELD, MO
anybody know
The location to rantz spring in Christian county? I can't find it...[/code]
THE THREAD KILLER!
-
PANIC! on the Titanic
- Titanic Penis
- Posts: 1806
- Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:39 pm
- Location: I am everywhere and nowhere, especially in Missouri
Re: anybody know
Alright this ones tough. I've spent about 3 hours on this one cuz Im bored at work and haven't gotten anything other than this site which you must have seen by now, and the fact that Rantz cave is a mile long, and douchebag Daniel Boone Rantz tried covering up the cave with a bunch of rocks. Other than that, nothin. .
But I'm not out of resources; I will come back to this.
But I'm not out of resources; I will come back to this.
Re: anybody know
okay I'm also looking. I've found this, but the location shown there doesn't really jive with other sources' locations.
The best lead so far is this one. You might even try emailing that guy. Here he gives a location for Reno, MO.
The best lead so far is this one. You might even try emailing that guy. Here he gives a location for Reno, MO.
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
Re: anybody know
Here's some good stuff I found while looking for Rantz Mill/Spring/Cave:
http://www.stateoftheozarks.net/Cultura ... eMill.html
http://www.ozarkmtns.com/milltour/
And the best so far, this one has township, range, & section locations for caves and other geological features: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~moccl ... _page2.htm
http://www.stateoftheozarks.net/Cultura ... eMill.html
http://www.ozarkmtns.com/milltour/
And the best so far, this one has township, range, & section locations for caves and other geological features: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~moccl ... _page2.htm
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
Re: anybody know
Actually if you go to this folder: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~moccl/Places/
there's all kinds of places they list the location to. The ccmtowns one is pretty cool since it lists the dates that the town had a post office.
there's all kinds of places they list the location to. The ccmtowns one is pretty cool since it lists the dates that the town had a post office.
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
Re: anybody know
According to H Dwight Johnson in Missouri: The Cave State, by 1978, 145 caves had been verified and recorded in Christian County, up from 65 in 1968 and a mere seven in 1952. Predictably, with such recent scientific verification, relatively few have names. Fewer still are located on maps. The earliest recorded and still one of the best known is northeast of Ozark. Called Winoca by 1819 explorer Henry Schoolcraft and Civil War by a developer in 1962, it is now and for well over a century has been known by the name of the family on whose land it was located, Smallin. It is especially noted for a high, broad arching entrance.
At exactly one mile in explored length, Rantz is well over double Smallin's explored length. In fact, when Johnson's book was published in 1980, only thirty-seven of Missouri's more than four thousand explored caves were known to be longer. Because of vandalism, safety and trespassing concerns, the location of most caves is expressed very generally. That information is included here chiefly to give a taste of the topography in an area and to help place former residents who may have mentioned or remembered caves near their homes.
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
Re: anybody know
Ok, I've got a smaller box for you to explore. By using personal property tax for the late 1800's I found this:
Name Year Location Worth Tax Notes
Rantz, D. B. 1891 Galloway #2495 60 0.49 Pd Feb 15/92
Rantz, D. B. 1893 Galloway #2480 127 1.14 Feb 16-94; Spo
Rantz, D. B. 1894 Galloway #2645 135 1.00 Spo
Rantz, D. B. 1895 Galloway #2874 94 0.69 Paid Jany 15 96
Rantz, D. B. 1898 Galloway #2954 200 1.50 2780 2/27 99
Rantz, Daniel B. 1900 Galloway #3133 111 1.35 2504 2 15 1901 D. B. Rantz
A cursory search for "Galloway #2495" turned up this township, so it's likely in there someplace.
I'll search more later.
Name Year Location Worth Tax Notes
Rantz, D. B. 1891 Galloway #2495 60 0.49 Pd Feb 15/92
Rantz, D. B. 1893 Galloway #2480 127 1.14 Feb 16-94; Spo
Rantz, D. B. 1894 Galloway #2645 135 1.00 Spo
Rantz, D. B. 1895 Galloway #2874 94 0.69 Paid Jany 15 96
Rantz, D. B. 1898 Galloway #2954 200 1.50 2780 2/27 99
Rantz, Daniel B. 1900 Galloway #3133 111 1.35 2504 2 15 1901 D. B. Rantz
A cursory search for "Galloway #2495" turned up this township, so it's likely in there someplace.
I'll search more later.
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
-
PANIC! on the Titanic
- Titanic Penis
- Posts: 1806
- Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:39 pm
- Location: I am everywhere and nowhere, especially in Missouri
Re: anybody know
Yeah I found those links as well. That Goby website is pretty much useless, as the location it puts Rentz is in a field, and there's no sign of a spring with cave anywhere.Nicotti wrote:bunch of links
The closest I can find, on that rootsweb site that mentions something being close to Reno, is Reno spring. Its on a topo on the Spokane quad. It's position matches that of the vague descriptions given elsewhere. I've searched the Missouri geospatial database here at work and can't find anything named Rentz spring, and the NSS cave files are hard to tap into as a non grotto member. It's like they dont want us to know it exists...
..
Government conspiracy...!
Re: anybody know
Interesting aside: here is D. B. Rantz's death certificate. He lived to be 91, almost 92. 
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
Re: anybody know
In the 1800's aliens landed in sw mo to observe the local population. They killed a small mill operator and his family and took over their identities....PANIC! on the Titanic wrote:It's like they dont want us to know it exists...
..
Government conspiracy...!
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
-
PANIC! on the Titanic
- Titanic Penis
- Posts: 1806
- Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:39 pm
- Location: I am everywhere and nowhere, especially in Missouri
Re: anybody know
That would explain such peculiar names as Daniel Boone Rentz. Pick a pop culture icon of the day, add freshly abducted landowner's last name, live among humans unnoticed.
Alien bastards.
Alien bastards.
Re: anybody know
Apparently we just needed to look at the cave map for a general location.
Everyone get out their topos and start matching landmarks now.
Everyone get out their topos and start matching landmarks now.
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
Re: anybody know
Ok it looks like it is here:
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
-
PANIC! on the Titanic
- Titanic Penis
- Posts: 1806
- Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:39 pm
- Location: I am everywhere and nowhere, especially in Missouri
Re: anybody know
Where'd you find that cave map?
Re: anybody know
It's on the disc. Caves of mo: western region. You can either drive up to Rolla and buy them (i still don't think they are available off the website publications)or you can search the site here, cause I think someone ripped the cd and posted a link to the file.
Just to be clear it's a disc of cave maps, not locations, but sometimes the map does that surrounding topography thing that makes them easier to find.
Edit: It is for sale online now: http://www.missourigeologystore.com/home.php?cat=31
and here's the thread I was talking about: viewtopic.php?t=4976
Just to be clear it's a disc of cave maps, not locations, but sometimes the map does that surrounding topography thing that makes them easier to find.
Edit: It is for sale online now: http://www.missourigeologystore.com/home.php?cat=31
and here's the thread I was talking about: viewtopic.php?t=4976
More online investigation than onsite exploration these days.
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand
“My dear fellow, who will let you?”
“That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”
-Ayn Rand